Get off the Pile: Following Up

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This week on Get off the Pile, we once again asked our friend Noah Nielsen ’10 for some advice on following up with interviews and applications. This is one of the trickiest roads to navigate on your way to a new job, but we think these are some helpful tips.

Hey Noah!

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Afterword: Alright Noah, what’s your advice for someone who has submitted 1,000 job applications and they don’t know what to do. What’s next for them?

Noah: Follow up!  Phone is better than email, and too many people simply send a resume and then never check in. Those who are persistent stand out.

A: If they know someone at the same company, how do you leverage that connection?

N: Ask for help!  Most people are happy to assist others (even strangers) and if you know someone at a company you are interested in, try to meet them for coffee or for an informational interview to learn more about the organization. Find out who handles hiring and ask if your contact would be comfortable making an introduction. Make sure to give them an opportunity to say no because they may not know that person very well if it’s a large company or they may not feel comfortable making the intro for any other reason which they are entitled to.

A: So you just had an interview. What’s the first thing you should do to follow-up?

N: Send a thank you note.  During the interview, ask the person for their card and send them an email thanking them for their time (email is fine, though a hand-written note can stand out in the right situation). I could write an entire blog post on thank you notes, but in general remember to keep it concise and to mention something specific from your conversation that you found interesting or helpful. Many companies will not even consider a candidate if they do not write a thank you note, so this is a must.

A: It’s been a few months since you applied, what can you do to get off the pile?

N: FOLLOW UP!  Until someone tells you not to, always follow up. Once a week is appropriate, or better yet, ask the company how often they suggest you follow up and then stick to that schedule.

A: What kind of follow-up is best if you get a rejection?

N: If you are rejected, politely thank the person for their time and consideration and try to learn from whatever feedback you receive. Unfortunately it is not always possible to get detailed feedback and sometimes candidates are not so much “rejected” but rather passed on in favor of a more qualified candidate. In any case, don’t take it personally, thank the hiring manager or recruiter and ask them if they have any advice for you or know or if they can introduce you to others in the industry who could be good contacts. Again, most people are happy to help and will appreciate your positive attitude and persistence.

Like what you’ve read here and missed some of our other posts in the Get Off the Pile series?

Search “Get Off The Pile” on the Afterword Page to see them all!

Cheers!

Ryan

Making Your First Loan Payment

Yep. It’s actually time to make your first loan payment. Don’t worry, if you plan ahead, you can avoid feeling like this:

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With that in mind, I want to share our old friend Derrick’s cautionary tale from 2013 about first loan payments, as well as offer some helpful tips for getting it right from the start.

As an added bonus, since this is a stressful time in your life, mark your first payment with a UVM Alumni Association bottle opener. Just click below, complete short form, and you can get one. We only have 100 to giveaway, so request yours early.

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Now, take it away Derrick!

“I was on an 8-hour drive for my job (not fun) and in the middle of the 5th radio appearance of Pharrell William’s “Happy”  I realized my first loan payment was due that day. I pulled out my crappy, quasi-smart phone and tried to make my payment on the side of the road.

After navigating the worst website in history, I managed to click the payment button before my browser crashed — did I make my payment? Only the internet gods knew for sure.

When I finally got home and logged on from my laptop, it hit me. I had already signed up for automatic loan payments and my side-of-the-road payment also went through.

I made a double payment — not because of my financial acumen — but because of my disorganization. 

I ate lots of Ramen that month. This is definitely not an experience to emulate and I’m going to try and make up for it by giving you really solid advice”.

Don’t be like Derrick. Here are 5 essential things you should do before making your first payment:

  1. Read this article to get started understanding your loans.
  2. Get Organized. Figure out if you have federal loans or private loans (or both) and how many. It’s probably easiest to ask your parents, look at old mail, or check your email — you loan provider has almost certainly tried to contact you by now.
  3. Pick a repayment plan. There are several types and many loans have an option for income-based repayment.  Also, if you are in grad school, make sure to defer your loans.
  4. Don’t make your payment late. They are already going to get enough of your money. Don’t give them any extra.
  5. Get Your Free UVM Alumni Association Bottle Opener. This is our way of easing the pain of that first payment. Open your favorite Vermont beverage with it, sink into your couch, and start a Netflix binge. You earned it .

2016 Holiday Parties

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November marks the start of the holiday season. That means it’s time to mark your calendars for the UVM Holiday Parties.

This year we’re celebrating in six cities: New York, DC, Boston, San Francisco, Seattle and Burlington. So if you’re close by, come party with your local UVM alums.

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Tickets are $25 for all young alumni and $15 for young alumni who are Alumni Association Sustaining Members (if you are a 2016er and bought a senior week ticket this is you!).

Check out the details for each party below:

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Washington DC
Tuesday, November 29, 2016
6:30-8:30 PM
Mayflower Hotel

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New York
Wednesday, November 30, 2016
6:30-8:30 PM
Penn Club of NY

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Boston
Thursday, December 1, 2016
6:30-8:30 PM
Marriot Long Wharf

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San Francisco
Thursday, December 1, 2016
6:30-8:30 PM
Hyatt Regency San Francisco

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Burlington
Thursday, December 8, 2016
6:30-8:30 PM
UVM Alumni House

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Seattle
Friday, December 16, 2016
6:00-9:00 PM
Pike Place Market

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DIY UVM Halloween Treats!

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My favorite thing about any holiday is the food, and Halloween is no exception.

So, in honor of the spookiest holiday of the year, I present you with two UVM-themed Halloween treats. They’re simple, easy and perfect to bring to a Halloween party with UVM friends.

First up, Catamount Crispies. This twist on the traditional rice krispie treat is so easy, you don’t even need an oven. Check out the video below to see how I whipped these up in the office kitchen with just a microwave.

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I adapted the recipe right off the back of a box of Rice Krispies.

You’ll need:

  • 6 cups Kellogg’s® Rice Krispies® cereal
  • 3 tablespoons butter
  • 1 package (10 oz) of marshmallows or 4 cups miniature marshmallows
  • Green food dye
  • Frosting for decorating

Here’s how you do it:

Stove top directions:
1. In large saucepan melt butter over low heat. Add marshmallows and stir until completely melted. Remove from heat. Add 10-15 drops of green food coloring.

2. Add cereal. Stir until well coated.

3. Using buttered spatula or wax paper evenly press mixture into 13 x 9 x 2-inch pan coated with cooking spray. Cool. Cut into 2-inch squares. Best if served the same day.

Microwave Directions:
In microwave-safe bowl heat butter and marshmallows on HIGH for 3 minutes, stirring after 2 minutes. Stir until smooth. Follow steps 2 and 3 above. Microwave cooking times may vary.

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No dessert is complete without an accompanying beverage.

Enter my Ghost of Ira Allen Punch. It glows green and plays well with other spirits, if you know what I mean…

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Recipe borrowed from Pillsbury.

You’ll need:

  • 1 quart lime sherbet, slightly softened
  • 1 container (12 oz) frozen limeade, thawed
  • 1 bottle (1 liter) ginger ale
  • Gummy worm candies
  • Lime slices (or lemon for that Green & Gold flair)

Here’s how to do it:

1. In punch bowl or pitcher, mix sherbet, limeade and ginger ale.

2. Pour into glasses. Garnish each glass with candy and lime slices. Serve immediately.

Enjoy!

— Ryan

Money Talks: 6 Personal Finance Tips

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One of the challenges of the proverbial “real world” is learning how to manage your money. Expenses mount, loan payments loom, and you’re just trying to get by without doing any major damage. I get it. I’ve been there — heck I am there.

So I put together a few basic personal finance tips from around the internet for you. Most of these are common sense but they’re worth repeating because they work.

Obviously, I’m not a financial adviser and everyone’s situation is different so take this list for what it is — a friendly reminder to look at your own habits and figure what works for you. If these articles and pieces of advice can help you get there, all the better.

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1. Set up a budget and track it — Knowing where your money is going is crucial in plugging holes and maximizing spending/savings. Mint.com is a great way to create and track a budget. They walk you through the set up process and do all of the tracking for you — piece of cake!

2. Prep for paying loans — Thinking about student loans can be intimidating, but a little prep can go a long way. Knowing how much you owe, understanding your payment schedule, budgeting for your monthly payment, and making early payments when possible, will make your life much easier and get you out of debt faster.

3. Sign up for a retirement plan  — if you landed a job and haven’t signed up for the 401(k), 403(b), or retirement savings plan offered, hustle down to HR right now to find out how. This article explains how a 401(k) works, why it’s important to think about retirement now, and how you can benefit from your company’s match. (If you’re not working or your company’s plan isn’t right for you,opening your own Roth IRA may be a great option.)

4. Build your own credit — You hear warnings about “bad credit”, but what you may not know is that sometimes having no credit can be just as challenging. Start building your credit now. Opening a credit card (and paying it off in full each month), paying your student loans on time and having your name on other bills (electric, water, cable), are all ways to build credit.

5. Start a rainy day fund — We covered retirement savings in #3, but you also want to build a fund for emergencies like unexpected medical expenses, a layoff, car repairs, etc… Your savings account can also be used to save for big purchases like a vacation, attending and giving gifts at weddings, a new car, etc… This article gives you 9 easy steps for building up your savings account like setting a goal, automating deposits to your savings account, and making worthy sacrifices.

6. Pack your own lunch — This is my personal addition to the list. One way I’ve saved money since graduating is packing my lunch each day. Going out to lunch and/or buying your coffee instead of making it at home adds up quickly — five days a week times $10-15 per day totals to $200-300 dollars in a month. Bringing my own costs less and, as an added bonus, forces me to make healthier choices. It also makes going out to lunch a fun break from the norm instead of business as usual.

So there you have it, a few tips for getting your personal finances in tip-top shape.