{"id":1347,"date":"2019-07-29T22:31:47","date_gmt":"2019-07-30T02:31:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.uvm.edu\/tgcleary\/?p=1347"},"modified":"2021-02-11T00:18:20","modified_gmt":"2021-02-11T04:18:20","slug":"a-message-from-the-future-of-jazz-camille-thurman-and-her-solo-on-sassys-blues","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.uvm.edu\/tgcleary\/2019\/07\/29\/a-message-from-the-future-of-jazz-camille-thurman-and-her-solo-on-sassys-blues\/","title":{"rendered":"A message from the future of jazz: Camille Thurman and her solo on &#8216;Sassy&#8217;s Blues&#8217; (The State of the Blues, part four)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>(The title of this post is borrowed from <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"a video narrated by U.S. Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=d9uTH0iprVQ\" target=\"_blank\">a video narrated by U.S. Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez<\/a>, a figure whose achievements in the political world have more than a few parallels to Camille Thurman&#8217;s achievements in the jazz world.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Camille Thurman is a groundbreaking jazz musician in more ways than one.&nbsp; Along with a small number of younger players such as Bria Skonberg and Esperanza Spalding, she is reviving the tradition of the instrumentalist who is an equally adept and serious vocalist.&nbsp; Although this tradition goes at least as far back in jazz history as Louis Armstrong, it has always been somewhat rare and seems to have all but died out around the bebop era, when (at least according to most historical accounts) the chief innovations in the music were occurring in the instrumental world, leading the separation between instrumental and vocal jazz music to became even more pronounced than during the swing era.&nbsp; In an <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"NPR interview (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.npr.org\/2018\/08\/24\/641599802\/camille-thurman-is-a-rare-jazz-double-threat?utm_source=facebook.com&amp;utm_medium=social&amp;utm_campaign=atc&amp;utm_term=nprnews&amp;utm_content=20180824\" target=\"_blank\">NPR interview<\/a>, Thurman mentions she was shocked to discover that Sarah Vaughan\u2019s considerable skills as a pianist remained a secret during most of her vocal career:&nbsp; &#8220;I remember when I first found out <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Sarah Vaughan (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.npr.org\/2008\/07\/18\/92646654\/sarah-vaughan-the-divine-one\" target=\"_blank\">Sarah Vaughan<\/a> was a pianist and it blew my mind away\u2026I was like, &#8216;How can you just put one part of a person or an artist&#8217;s gift out there when there&#8217;s a whole person?\u201d&nbsp; (Although Vaughan was originally hired as a second pianist in the Earl Hines big band, her piano skills stayed largely out of sight during most of her vocal career.&nbsp; It was only in her later years that she revealed her piano skills in live concerts such as <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"this one  (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=ZtfJZwy6ZgY\" target=\"_blank\">this one <\/a>and the Marian McPartland show which can be heard by clicking on Vaughan\u2019s name above.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As one can see by listening to Thurman\u2019s solo on <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"\u2018Sassy\u2019s Blues\u2019 from her album 'Inside The Moment' (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=zQxYr3hb_MU&amp;pbjreload=10\" target=\"_blank\">\u2018Sassy\u2019s Blues\u2019 from her album &#8216;Inside The Moment&#8217;<\/a> (my transcription of the first two choruses is posted below with her permission), she is a masterful improviser who demonstrates both a deep knowledge of jazz melodic language and the ability to make it her own. &nbsp;Her ability to begin phrases on the upbeat, as well as her ability to \u2018make the changes\u2019 in her solo locate her melodic language firmly within the bebop idiom.  Her ability to lend an instrumental quality to her scatting and the range of syllables she chooses both give the solo a distinctly modern flair.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In the NPR interview I mentioned above, Thurman explains that while she has been singing informally since she was a child, she began to get more serious about singing when she found it a helpful way to learn saxophone parts (during a time in her life when she received a scholarship that required her to play the saxophone.)\u00a0 Each of her three albums gives a slightly different answer to the question of whether she identifies more as a vocalist or an instrumentalist; while \u2018Origins\u2019 and \u2018Inside The Moment\u2019 contain mostly instrumental pieces with the occasional vocal feature, last year\u2019s \u2018Waiting For The Sunrise\u2019 highlights her singing on most tunes, although on many tracks Thurman alternates with seeming effortlessness between playing and singing.\u00a0 This remarkable feat, combined with the album\u2019s ballad-heavy tune choices, makes it reminiscent of the classic \u2018John Coltrane and Johnny Hartman\u2019 album, but with the two masterful soloists rolled into one performer.\u00a0\u00a0 (Perhaps the most succinct demonstration of Thurman\u2019s ability to alternate between the two skills is <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"an astonishing \u2018There Will Never Be Another You\u2019 from 2013 (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=6a4EGhwDkA4\" target=\"_blank\">an astonishing \u2018There Will Never Be Another You\u2019 from 2013<\/a>.)\u00a0 I hope that Thurman might be a model for a new kind of jazz student, one who rejects the false choice between playing an instrument or singing and instead realizes that if one can develop both these skills, they can powerfully support and strengthen one another (regardless of whether or not one\u2019s goal is to be a multi-instrumentalist.)  I also hope that the increasing and increasingly visible ranks of professional female jazz instrumentalists, younger players such as Thurman, Spalding, Skonberg, Helen Sung, Linda May Han Oh and Tia Fuller as well as veterans such as Terri Lyne Carrington, Joanne Brackeen, and Jane Ira Bloom will lead aspiring female instrumentalists to stay in the game despite so many jazz scenes being male-dominated.  The recently founded <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"http:\/\/wearewijo.org\/about\/\" target=\"_blank\">Women In Jazz Organization<\/a> is also an important development in the jazz education scene.  It is crucial that role models for female instrumentalists remain visible in the versions of the jazz world projected by the media and by educators because, as Marian Wright Edelman <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.childrensdefense.org\/child-watch-columns\/health\/2015\/its-hard-to-be-what-you-cant-see\/\" target=\"_blank\">said<\/a>, &#8216;It&#8217;s Hard To Be What You Can&#8217;t See.&#8217; (Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez gives her own version of this statement in the video mentioned above.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Over the past year, Thurman has made a particularly momentous and groundbreaking move; she has been appearing regularly as a tenor saxophonist and vocalist with the Jazz at Lincoln Center Orchestra, a group in which female instrumentalists have been historically and inexplicably absent from the roster of permanent players.\u00a0 As her website biography relates, she has become \u2018the first woman in 30\u00a0years to work an entire season with the world-renowned orchestra (2018-2019).\u2019\u00a0 This careful wording manages to avoid mentioning that the group has <em>never<\/em> had a female player among its regular lineup.\u00a0 The group\u2019s website mentions that it includes \u201815 of the finest soloists, ensemble players, and arrangers in jazz music today\u2019, and many, myself included, would go further to say that it has been the leading jazz big band in the country since its inception.\u00a0 In its sense of prominence and mission, including its educational work in the Essentially Ellington competition, as well as a diplomatic functions representing the U.S. in performances around the world, the JALCO is a kind of jazz parallel to the U.S. Congress.\u00a0 As recently as last year, however, trumpeter Ellen Seeling, chair of the advocacy group <a href=\"https:\/\/jazzwomenadvocates.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Jazzwomen &amp; Girls Advocates<\/a>, was quoted as saying of the band that \u2018\u201cThey travel the world and have for years, sending the message that there are no women good enough to be in this organization.\u201d\u00a0 In light of the JALCO\u2019s well-earned and deserved prominence, as well as the challenge it has had with including female musicians, Thurman\u2019s breakthrough makes her a kind of jazz parallel to both <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Jeanette Rankin (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/history.house.gov\/People\/Listing\/R\/RANKIN,-Jeannette-(R000055)\/\" target=\"_blank\">Jeanette Rankin<\/a>, the senate\u2019s first female member, and <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Shirley Chisholm (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/history.house.gov\/HistoricalHighlight\/Detail\/37113?ret=True\" target=\"_blank\">Shirley Chisholm<\/a>, its first African-American female member.  (Strangely, despite having played more than a season at this point with the band, Thurman is still not listed on the JALCO website among either their <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"regular members (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.jazz.org\/JLCO\/\" target=\"_blank\">regular members<\/a> or on their <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"list of substitute players (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.jazz.org\/y28z77j\/?toggle=2\" target=\"_blank\">list of substitute players<\/a>.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I am a longtime fan of the JALCO and its musical director, Wynton Marsalis.&nbsp; I have seen the full band twice in concert, seen Marsalis\u2019 small group live, listened to them many more times on recordings, and have used the excellent scores from the Essentially Ellington competition with many student bands I\u2019ve led.&nbsp; In an <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"earlier blog post (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"http:\/\/blog.uvm.edu\/tgcleary\/2013\/08\/24\/american-tunes\/\" target=\"_blank\">earlier blog post<\/a>, I transcribed a characteristically ingenious solo Marsalis took on \u2018When The Saints Go Marching In\u2019 during his commencement speech at UVM in 2013.&nbsp; I\u2019ve also experienced Marsalis\u2019 legendary resistance to recognizing the talent of female instrumentalists firsthand.&nbsp; When a female student of mine asked him in a question and answer session at UVM around 2005 whether the quality of female jazz players in general was improving, his answer began with silent head-shaking, which was followed with a short verbal answer that boiled down to \u2018No.\u2019&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In a Village Voice <a href=\"https:\/\/www.villagevoice.com\/2000\/11\/07\/dig-boy-dig\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"article  (opens in a new tab)\">article <\/a>published earlier in the decade, Marsalis\u2019 response was somewhat more hopeful.&nbsp; The article, written in 2000 by Lara Paragrenelli, first acknowledges that \u2018The Lincoln Center Jazz Orchestra\u2026 has never had a female member\u2019 and then goes on to quote Marsalis (I have included Paragrenelli\u2019s interstitial comments as well): \u201c \u201cI hire orchestra members on the basis of merit,\u201d says artistic director Wynton Marsalis, implying women do not yet make the grade. \u201cThe more women we have playing jazz, the higher the level of playing gets, the more they audition, and the more women are going to be all over. It will be just like classical music.\u201d Marsalis also cites slow turnover in the band of 15, limiting the availability of positions.\u201d &nbsp;Paragrenelli goes on to quote historian Sherrie Tucker, author of <em>Swing Shift: All-Girl Bands of the 1940s<\/em>, who tells her that \u201cThe argument that women will eventually be good enough is very old.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I have been thrilled and enlightened for many years by the sound of the JALCO\u2019s performances, but in recent years I\u2019ve increasingly noticed how it is full of age and culture diversity, symbolizes hope and excellence to many, and yet doesn&#8217;t include qualified women among its regular members, as one would expect from such a representative body.\u00a0 To have noticed this imbalance, and then to see the <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"footage  (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/wyntonmarsalis.org\/videos\/view\/the-jungle-mvt-i-jlco-with-wynton-marsalis-the-national-symphony-orchestra-of-romania\" target=\"_blank\">footage <\/a>on Marsalis\u2019 website of a performance including Thurman from earlier this year, alongside the National Symphony Orchestra of Romania, carries for me a taste of the thrill humans worldwide must have felt seeing Neil Armstrong\u2019s first steps on the moon in 1969.\u00a0 The contrast between the Romanian group, which includes female players in every section, including multiple women among the woodwinds, and the JALCO with its single female member, dramatizes how the most recognized U.S. jazz group is just beginning to catch up to representative organizations in many fields in its gender diversity.\u00a0 Marsalis and the JALCO deserve long and loud accolades for finally recognizing in a prominent way the deep well of female instrumental jazz talent that has been in existence for many years.  Here\u2019s hoping that it is a sign of many more such changes yet to come.\u00a0 <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"791\" height=\"1024\" src=\"http:\/\/blog.uvm.edu\/tgcleary\/files\/2019\/07\/sassys-blues-camille-thurman-concertoriginal-key-1-791x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1350\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.uvm.edu\/tgcleary\/files\/2019\/07\/sassys-blues-camille-thurman-concertoriginal-key-1-791x1024.jpg 791w, https:\/\/blog.uvm.edu\/tgcleary\/files\/2019\/07\/sassys-blues-camille-thurman-concertoriginal-key-1-232x300.jpg 232w, https:\/\/blog.uvm.edu\/tgcleary\/files\/2019\/07\/sassys-blues-camille-thurman-concertoriginal-key-1-768x994.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blog.uvm.edu\/tgcleary\/files\/2019\/07\/sassys-blues-camille-thurman-concertoriginal-key-1.jpg 1275w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 791px) 100vw, 791px\" \/><\/figure>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>(The title of this post is borrowed from a video narrated by U.S. Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a figure whose achievements in the political world have more than a few parallels to Camille Thurman&#8217;s achievements in the jazz world.) 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