{"id":353,"date":"2016-03-15T13:02:26","date_gmt":"2016-03-15T17:02:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.uvm.edu\/farmclim\/?p=353"},"modified":"2017-04-20T12:46:36","modified_gmt":"2017-04-20T16:46:36","slug":"seasoned-farmer-andy-jones-talks-about-the-seasons-at-intervale-community-farm-and-how-he-stays-ahead-of-the-weather","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.uvm.edu\/farmclim\/2016\/03\/15\/seasoned-farmer-andy-jones-talks-about-the-seasons-at-intervale-community-farm-and-how-he-stays-ahead-of-the-weather\/","title":{"rendered":"Seasoned farmer Andy Jones talks about the seasons at Intervale Community Farm and how he stays ahead of the weather"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Andy Jones manages the <a href=\"https:\/\/intervalecommunityfarm.com\">Intervale Community Farm<\/a>, all of which lies within the 100-year floodplain of the Winooski River. Last week, I sat down with Andy in his office to hear his perspective on the farm and his strategy for adapting to the <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.uvm.edu\/farmclim\/2015\/04\/29\/moving-to-higher-ground\/\">extreme weather of climate change<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>We are subject to the whims of the river. When I started in 1993, the typical pattern was spring flooding, snowmelt flowing, all related to how much snow pack was in the hills. And when the weather warmed, rain hit the snow pack and came rushing down to lake and inundated some fields. The flood plain looks very flat but it is actually sloping and there are a lot of minor surface undulations, a foot here and foot there make a great deal of difference in terms of actual flooding.<a href=\"http:\/\/blog.uvm.edu\/farmclim\/files\/2016\/03\/Andy-Jones.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-359\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-359\" src=\"http:\/\/blog.uvm.edu\/farmclim\/files\/2016\/03\/Andy-Jones-208x300.jpg\" alt=\"Andy Jones\" width=\"208\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.uvm.edu\/farmclim\/files\/2016\/03\/Andy-Jones-208x300.jpg 208w, https:\/\/blog.uvm.edu\/farmclim\/files\/2016\/03\/Andy-Jones.jpg 404w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 208px) 100vw, 208px\" \/><\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Every speck of ground and building is located within the 100-year of floodplain including where we are right now (in the farm office). The main reason it\u2019s remained in agriculture within the city limits of Burlington is because it\u2019s within the 100-year floodplain. If that were not the case, it would have been housing or something else long ago.<\/p>\n<p>Andy stands in a long tradition of farming at the Intervale. As he acknowledges, \u201clong ago, the land was recognized as quality productive farmland; native peoples farmed here for hundreds of years. Ethan Allen was granted all of it in the 18th century; it&#8217;s been farmed entirely throughout the centuries. It\u2019s productive farmland, albeit subject to flooding.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Was Tropical Storm Irene a game changer?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Water management and flooding have always been our major challenges; the biggest risk factors are not insects, diseases, or market disruptions, but the omnipresent risk and the potential catastrophic outcome of the big flood.<\/p>\n<p>In 2011, when Tropical Storm Irene dumped on us, we were heavily impacted; the entire farm, save 2 acres, was underwater. All of our high land that usually does not flood was flooded and we lost about 12 \u2013 13 acres of crops, which were in the ground.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong><em>Unlike a lot of other people, we\u2019d been preparing because we were accustomed to being in a floodplain and having to salvage crops and to move equipment <\/em>out of harm\u2019s way.<\/strong><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>In hindsight we should have started earlier. We certainly didn\u2019t have any idea about the scale and the magnitude; we were expecting a bad flood \u2013 we weren\u2019t expecting an Epic flood.<\/p>\n<p>After Irene, Andy explains, there were some things he really had to look at hard. \u201cWe expected to have a rough spring the following year and while we didn\u2019t make our spring numbers, we were pretty close, 94-95% of our target. By the following year we were back on track in spades.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Did the cooperative structure make a difference in customer and membership support?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I think the cooperative structure in the broad sense of the word &#8216;cooperative&#8217;, not necessarily in the legal sense of the word. For some people, the legal cooperative is important and the fact that they own it and have a stake in it is a motivating factor for their commitment. More people joined the co-op as members providing $200 to the farm through their co-op equity membership. For the larger percentage, it\u2019s \u00a0more about their relationship, they know the farm, they know the people who are the growers, and they understand that we are all in this together.\u00a0 We came up with an arrangement which works for everybody and that was really powerful.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong><em>It\u2019s really more about their relationship, they know the farm, the growers, and they understand that we are all in this together&#8230;<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>A number of farmers who were direct market growers were dependent on farmers markets where everything just evaporated. But for us, we had this on-going business because we had people who we were talking to us, to whom we were sending our newsletter, and we were holding events.<\/p>\n<p>From marketing standpoint, I was impressed with the commitment of CSA membership and the model did help us through the overall catastrophe. In order for it to be successful, you need to have a relationship with the CSA members and a good track record.<\/p>\n<p><strong>How does the floodplain make a difference in farm management?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Even though the trend has been toward crazy precipitation episodes, we don\u2019t suffer as much because we have a lot of very sandy well-drained soil.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong><em>The irony is the floodplain is dangerous and forgiving at the same time.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>We do have about 1\/3 of our land that is fairly silty, considerably lower, and more flood prone, so with that land, since Irene, we\u2019ve made some adjustments. I realized I wasn\u2019t going to be able to count on the wetter land to be able to plant early crops and always have to wait and plant crops.<\/p>\n<p><strong>How are you predicting the odds of the weather and evening out production?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>When we expect to plant varies year to year, not before the 2<sup>nd<\/sup> week of May, sometimes early June. Silty soils hold moisture better so have less moisture stress compared to sandy soils. We\u2019ve been planting later for 20 years but we have lost significant crops in lower fields in the past 5 years, so we plant crops which we can more afford to lose, and which turn over quickly such as lettuce, spinach, and salad greens. With a quick maturation rate, if they&#8217;re lost, we can still replant. With the winter share, we\u2019re dependent on growing a lot of root crops, which we need to store. We can\u2019t lose these, as we\u2019re reliant on them for the long sweep of the seasons.<\/p>\n<p><strong>How are you managing different soil types in flood prone areas?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>For our silty soils, we bought a raised bed builder a few years ago. We\u2019re not using this on sandy soils as the water drains away. While raised beds don\u2019t help us in the flooding situation, they help in intense precipitation events (2-3 inches or when we have consecutive wet weeks) by preventing saturated soils and root death.<\/p>\n<p>On the sandy side of the farm, we rely a lot on irrigation and we have for 20 years so we have invested in irrigation equipment. And we expect that every year we will irrigate. \u00a0\u00a0Last year, August was dry and we were irrigating our vegetables twice a week.<\/p>\n<p>For us, irrigation has been essential; otherwise, we would have lost so many crops as irrigation allows us not only to keep things growing and bulking up, but other crops we can\u2019t even germinate without irrigation.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong><em>For us,\u00a0irrigation is the difference between a crop and no crop.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>One of the things we\u2019re blessed with in the Northeast is plenty of water and in this location in particular we have great water resources.\u00a0 We have a big river going by and the ground water is relatively shallow so when we had a well put in to feed our greenhouses, the well drillers we\u2019re so excited that we could get 800 gallons a minute for nothing.<\/p>\n<p><strong>In managing flood prone soils, what benefits have you seen?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Coming back full circle, where we started is to really trying to concentrate resources on the more secure parts of the farm, so that&#8217;s the sandy fields. Although we have issues with low organic matter and water management, they are more secure and resilient to weather extremes. We push the yields in a concentrated area, make sure we\u2019re really on top of our game with weed control, irrigation, really optimizing the growth of everything in those areas. When we\u2019re spread out over wider area, we don\u2019t really pay attention to any one thing.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Since Irene, have you suffered more losses due to too much water?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Nothing major. Last year, we lost in late May and early June; we lost \u00bc acre \u2013 1\/3 acre of spinach and lettuce and 20% of our potato crop. In the whole scheme of things in terms of overall farm output, it was less than 5%.<\/p>\n<p><strong>How are you using cover for erratic weather?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Tunnels are major element of overall planned resiliency and an example of concentrating production. We\u2019ve moved all our tomatoes and almost all our peppers inside which contributed to better yields and profitability for both those crops. And it allowed us to grow throughout the year. Since tomatoes are 10% of our overall value and baby salad greens are about the same, if we can take 20-25% of the farm revenue and shelter that from a lot of the weather extreme, that\u2019s been really good.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_361\" style=\"width: 289px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"http:\/\/blog.uvm.edu\/farmclim\/files\/2016\/03\/hoop-house.jpeg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-361\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-361\" class=\" wp-image-361\" src=\"http:\/\/blog.uvm.edu\/farmclim\/files\/2016\/03\/hoop-house-258x300.jpeg\" alt=\"Intervale Community Farm, March 2016\" width=\"279\" height=\"324\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.uvm.edu\/farmclim\/files\/2016\/03\/hoop-house-258x300.jpeg 258w, https:\/\/blog.uvm.edu\/farmclim\/files\/2016\/03\/hoop-house.jpeg 480w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 279px) 100vw, 279px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-361\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Intervale Community Farm, March 2016<\/p><\/div>\n<p><strong>Have you <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.uvm.edu\/farmclim\/2015\/07\/08\/report-on-climate-change-resilience-for-service-providers\/\">diversified your market<\/a> to response to climate change effects?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>We haven\u2019t done a lot to diversify our markets and I don\u2019t think that would really help us be more resilient because our market is not our chief constraint.\u00a0 Having that close relationship with our CSA members is as <em>strong<\/em> and as <em>favorable<\/em> a market as we could possibly have for weathering climate disruptions.<\/p>\n<p>In general, I don\u2019t think our market has shifted in response to climate change. But I think the fundamental premise of security and diversity in our crops has proven itself in response to upheavals in the weather and climate.\u00a0 Years that it&#8217;s cold and wet we have super greens, brassicas, and onion crops which people enjoy, and years when it\u2019s hot and dry,\u00a0we have excellent melons, tomatoes, and peppers. Almost no matter the weather, we have some things that are really thriving.<\/p>\n<p><strong>If a new farmer came in here today, what advice would you give to her or him?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>If they were in a floodplain, I would say, try and get the land that\u2019s the highest land you can, as there are lots of floodplains I\u2019d not recommend people to start a farm or grow vegetables on. It\u2019s pretty hard to build your business without having at least some significant % of your land that is not very flood prone.<\/p>\n<p>So I\u2019d say make sure you have some high land, try to concentrate your production as much as you can on that land, have tunnels, grow a lot of different crops, make sure you either have a highly diverse market or you have a highly committed market \u2013 in our case we have a highly committed market. \u00a0As Andy advises and concludes our talk,<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong><em>Pay attention to establishing a strong track record of growing good produce in the years that you\u2019re not hampered. Then any goodwill you\u2019ve engendered during that time will be needed and you&#8217;ll \u00a0have it banked against disruptions down the road.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/blog.uvm.edu\/farmclim\/files\/2016\/03\/Intervale-sign.jpeg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-373\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-373 aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/blog.uvm.edu\/farmclim\/files\/2016\/03\/Intervale-sign-300x173.jpeg\" alt=\"Intervale sign\" width=\"415\" height=\"239\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.uvm.edu\/farmclim\/files\/2016\/03\/Intervale-sign-300x173.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/blog.uvm.edu\/farmclim\/files\/2016\/03\/Intervale-sign.jpeg 640w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 415px) 100vw, 415px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Andy Jones manages the Intervale Community Farm, all of which lies within the 100-year floodplain of the Winooski River. 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