{"id":2326,"date":"2011-01-15T09:15:31","date_gmt":"2011-01-15T14:15:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.uvm.edu\/aivakhiv\/?p=2326"},"modified":"2011-04-07T13:22:22","modified_gmt":"2011-04-07T18:22:22","slug":"paradigms-productivity-perspective","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.uvm.edu\/aivakhiv\/2011\/01\/15\/paradigms-productivity-perspective\/","title":{"rendered":"Paradigms, productivity, perspective"},"content":{"rendered":"

Levi Bryant responds to my last post (and by extension to Chris Vitale’s) here<\/a>. I agree with him that he and Graham Harman have made worthy efforts at addressing concerns that are central to process-relational philosophical communities (e.g., in Bryant’s Difference and Givenness<\/em> and in the books of Harman’s that I’ve lauded on this blog); nowhere did I claim they have “made no<\/em> arguments<\/em>.” My point in the comparison was not to “appeal to authority,” as Levi claims. It was simply to point out the fact that one could fill a modestly sized room with the books that have been published by Deleuzians, Whiteheadians, Peircians, Bergsonians, Jamesians, neo-Spinozans, Hartshornians, Batesonians, panpsychists, biosemioticists, affective materialists, etc. etc. (not to mention Buddhist nondualists and other non-Western-based philosophers, at which point we would need a modestly sized building, not just a room). One could not fill a small shelf yet with OOO books.<\/p>\n

This says nothing <\/em>about the quality of any of these books. But it does say that the former (process-relational) traditions have been productive research programs (in philosopher of science Imre Lakatos’s terms), which is almost as good as one could hope for in a field as paradigmatically pluralistic and divided as philosophy. The difference between a productive<\/em> and a moribund<\/em> research program is not always easy to tell except in retrospect, but the level of continuing idea-generation and publishing, including efforts that traverse between and across the various sub-traditions I’ve just mentioned, is relatively healthy. Given that state of the field, Kuhnian paradigm shifts are probably not on the philosophical horizon anytime soon. But I admire OOO-ists’ efforts (and enthusiasm) to cut a wide swath through current philosophical discourse, and I actually cheer them on in doing this (since I share at least some of their interests). But let’s keep things in perspective.<\/p>\n

On an unrelated note: my blogging will likely be minimal over the coming weeks. I may polish off a few half- or mostly-written posts from my drafts folder, and I will continue to update my Shadow Blog <\/a>(since that takes no time at all). You may see a few guest bloggers here as well. But otherwise, don’t expect too much activity here, especially on this objects-processes debate.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Levi Bryant responds to my last post (and by extension to Chris Vitale’s) here. I agree with him that he and Graham Harman have made worthy efforts at addressing concerns that are central to process-relational philosophical communities (e.g., in Bryant’s Difference and Givenness and in the books of Harman’s that I’ve lauded on this blog); […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":99,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[688385,688977,4422],"tags":[16806],"class_list":["post-2326","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-blog_stuff","category-geo_philosophy","category-process-relational-thought","tag-object-oriented-philosophy"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p4IC4a-Bw","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":1292,"url":"https:\/\/blog.uvm.edu\/aivakhiv\/2010\/06\/14\/daughter-objects-processes\/","url_meta":{"origin":2326,"position":0},"title":"daughter objects (& processes)","author":"Adrian J Ivakhiv","date":"June 14, 2010","format":false,"excerpt":"Levi has a nice post on pedagogy, objects, and his daughter. His conclusions, I think, can be rephrased in terms more amenable to an objects-relations dialogue. [. . .] Since Graham has set out a challenge (\"Take that, relationists!\"), I'll take a very quick stab at a process-relational reply:","rel":"","context":"In "Philosophy"","block_context":{"text":"Philosophy","link":"https:\/\/blog.uvm.edu\/aivakhiv\/category\/geo_philosophy\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":5182,"url":"https:\/\/blog.uvm.edu\/aivakhiv\/2011\/08\/17\/life-outside-the-lava-lamp\/","url_meta":{"origin":2326,"position":1},"title":"Life outside the lava lamp","author":"Adrian J Ivakhiv","date":"August 17, 2011","format":false,"excerpt":"Over at Naught Thought, Ben Woodard (sorry, Ben, for the earlier misspell) wants \"to know what the Process\/Relational folks think\" of his thoughts about philosophies of process versus philosophies of objects or substances (or something like that). 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Tim Morton has been making intriguing sounds to that effect, and Levi Bryant has begun to ask him the hard questions about how and whether that might be possible -- of how to \"square the circle\" of independent substances (OOO) with Buddhism's conditioned genesis (a.k.a.\u2026","rel":"","context":"In "Philosophy"","block_context":{"text":"Philosophy","link":"https:\/\/blog.uvm.edu\/aivakhiv\/category\/geo_philosophy\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"LotusSutraPage~R50~SarahFraserCourse.jpg","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.uvm.edu\/aivakhiv\/files\/2010\/09\/LotusSutraPageR50SarahFraserCourse.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":1233,"url":"https:\/\/blog.uvm.edu\/aivakhiv\/2010\/04\/06\/let-a-thousand-objects-bloom\/","url_meta":{"origin":2326,"position":5},"title":"let a thousand objects bloom","author":"Adrian J Ivakhiv","date":"April 6, 2010","format":false,"excerpt":"Here's a quick reply to Levi Bryant's reply to my post from this morning on objects and relations: I have no qualms about Levi's terminology, which I find to be generally very lucid and thoughtfully articulated. 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