{"id":1352,"date":"2010-10-01T19:21:02","date_gmt":"2010-10-02T00:21:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.uvm.edu\/aivakhiv\/2010\/10\/01\/philosophy-salvation-the-world\/"},"modified":"2010-10-01T19:21:02","modified_gmt":"2010-10-02T00:21:02","slug":"philosophy-salvation-the-world","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.uvm.edu\/aivakhiv\/2010\/10\/01\/philosophy-salvation-the-world\/","title":{"rendered":"philosophy, salvation, &amp; the world"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Fabio Gironi has a <a href=\"http:\/\/hypertiling.wordpress.com\/2010\/09\/30\/notes-on-co-dependent-origination\/\">very perceptive response<\/a> to the recent posts at <a href=\"http:\/\/larvalsubjects.wordpress.com\/2010\/09\/30\/conditioned-genesis-questions-about-squaring-the-circle\/\">Larval Subjects<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/ecologywithoutnature.blogspot.com\/2010\/09\/object-oriented-buddhism-8.html\">Ecology Without Nature<\/a>, and here, over Buddhism, objects, and relations.<\/p>\n<p>I like his admission that &#8220;I have never been \u2013 nor [do] I plan to be\u2014a practicing Buddhist or a \u2018believer\u2019 of any sort, but the encounter with N\u0101g\u0101rjuna\u2019s philosophy was probably the most exciting intellectual encounter of my career.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>There is something wildly exciting about reading Nagarjuna, even if it may be confusing if not accompanied by a reliable guide (and even <em>if<\/em> accompanied). My own understanding of Nagarjuna comes largely filtered through his more recent anglophone translators and interpreters: Garfield, Westerhoff, and others, and I&#8217;m sure Fabio knows his Nagarjuna better than I do. But I wonder if he sells himself short by shying away from being a &#8220;&#8216;believer&#8217; of any sort.&#8221; I know what he means here, but I would want to raise Deleuze&#8217;s &#8220;belief in this world&#8221; as an option into an otherwise too staid picture of &#8216;belief.&#8217;<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><br \/>\nToward the end of his post, Fabio writes:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>&#8220;Once we change the main existential concerns (the 4 Noble Truths) and replace them with a Greek vocabulary (<em>theoria, eudaimonia, phronesis\u2026<\/em>) we could ask: was it <em>really<\/em>  any different with western metaphysics? (and I do not only refer to the Ancient\/Medieval world: to what extent did Whitehead have pressing soteriological concerns? Or Heidegger for that matter\u2026)&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>It&#8217;s a great question, and I think it would help if we thought of this soteriological dimension &#8212; philosophy as salvation &#8212; not in the standard sense of a salvation or liberation <em>from<\/em> the world (which popular renditions of Buddhism reiterate all too often) but in the sense of a moral commitment <em>toward<\/em> the world, a salvation <em>of moments<\/em> by directing them toward <em>their<\/em> future and not toward a mere dispersion into nothingness. This is the Deleuzian commitment to the world, and to the becoming of every moment, which is rooted in the understanding that it is the <em>only<\/em> world (and the only moment, for the moment); we&#8217;ve just sold it short by not perceiving it adequately. That sounds rather un-Buddhist, but so be it&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Alternatively, it&#8217;s not philosophy itself that is salvific, but rather philosophy is a tool toward a <em>practice<\/em> that is salvific, a practice that transforms, and that does this by transforming our perception of the world. This is where Buddhism has developed some of the sharpest diamond-vajra-sceptre-tools available in the world&#8217;s philosophical-soteriological toolbox.<\/p>\n<p>Fabio writes:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>&#8220;The fact that ultimately phenomena are devoid of self, is not a reason for negating the world. On the contrary, <em>prat\u012btyasamutp\u0101da<\/em>, the law of co-dependant origination that regulates it, is possible because of the (conventional) existence of essenceless phenomena. The point here is that this coherence is a purely conventional one: the only possible frame of reference is one that recognizes the dynamic and unstable nature of things. Things, selfhood and words can acquire any meaning at all only if considered as a part of a conventionally existent, groundless, essenceless whole. Every effect refers back\u2014and owes its (conventional) existence\u2014to the totality of its conditions. There is no ultimate reality, no identifiable self-present ego, no absolute word. What exists (conventionally) is what is present, what is present is what is conditioned. There is no possibility to freeze-frame this flow to identify any singularity. Any attempt in this direction is misleading.&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>I recommend reading the whole post. I&#8217;m off to Spain in a few days and will probably not be able to participate much if this were to flare up into a OO-Buddhist &#8220;event&#8221; (along the lines of the Derrida &#8220;wars&#8221; and process-relation debates, etc.). But I suspect it won&#8217;t, since Buddhist philosophy just isn&#8217;t as well known to the philosoblogosphere. 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I like his admission that &#8220;I have never been \u2013 nor [do] I plan to be\u2014a practicing Buddhist or a \u2018believer\u2019 of any sort, but the encounter with N\u0101g\u0101rjuna\u2019s philosophy was [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":99,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[688977,4422,691847],"tags":[4417,16806],"class_list":["post-1352","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-geo_philosophy","category-process-relational-thought","category-religion-spirituality","tag-buddhism","tag-object-oriented-philosophy"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p4IC4a-lO","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":1154,"url":"https:\/\/blog.uvm.edu\/aivakhiv\/2009\/11\/14\/nagarjuna-ecophilosophy-the-practice-of-liberation\/","url_meta":{"origin":1352,"position":0},"title":"Nagarjuna, ecophilosophy, &amp; the practice of liberation","author":"Adrian J Ivakhiv","date":"November 14, 2009","format":false,"excerpt":"John Clark\u2019s recent article in Capitalism Nature Socialism, \u201cOn being none with nature: Nagarjuna and the ecology of emptiness,\u201d has gotten my neurons firing in a productive way. 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