{"id":1160,"date":"2009-11-30T21:03:16","date_gmt":"2009-12-01T02:03:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.uvm.edu\/aivakhiv\/2009\/11\/30\/more-on-zizek-natures-discontents\/"},"modified":"2009-11-30T21:03:16","modified_gmt":"2009-12-01T02:03:16","slug":"more-on-zizek-natures-discontents","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.uvm.edu\/aivakhiv\/2009\/11\/30\/more-on-zizek-natures-discontents\/","title":{"rendered":"more on \u017di\u017eek &amp; nature&#8217;s discontents"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s interesting to watch a topic spin itself out rhizomically across the blogosphere. Picking up on \u017di\u017eek&#8217;s ecological musings, <a href=\"http:\/\/larvalsubjects.wordpress.com\/2009\/11\/30\/nature-and-its-discontents\/\">Levi Bryant<\/a> seems more or less in agreement with what I had <a href=\"http:\/\/aivakhiv.blog.uvm.edu\/2009\/11\/zizek_on_home_turf.html\">argued here<\/a> last week, as does <a href=\"http:\/\/buymeout.wordpress.com\/2009\/11\/29\/nature-and-its-discontents\/\">Michael Austin<\/a>, while <a href=\"http:\/\/naughtthought.wordpress.com\/2009\/11\/27\/the-uneasiness-in-nature\/\">Ben Woodard<\/a> criticizes the narrowing of the &#8220;ecology of concepts of nature&#8221; (a point I had made, too) and the &#8220;ontological priviledge of the subject&#8221; that &#8220;remains a serious stumbling block for any approach to nature that is not too shallow or too obfuscated.&#8221; This latter point sounds to me like Quentin Meillassoux&#8217;s (fashionable, in Speculative Realist circles) argument against &#8220;correlationism,&#8221; i.e., the (post-Kantian) anchoring of philosophy in the human subject&#8217;s relationship with the world. While I haven&#8217;t read Meillassoux&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.continuumbooks.com\/books\/detail.aspx?BookId=133582&amp;SearchType=Basic\">After Finitude<\/a>, I share his critique of correlationism if it&#8217;s restricted to the <em>human<\/em> piece (since the world is made up of more than just human subjects) but not to the extent that it tries to decenter subjectivity in general. As I see it, subjectivity and objectivity are mutually co-constituted through the events (becomings, actual occasions) that make up the world, and this relationship ought to be central to a philosophically realist understanding of the world.<\/p>\n<p>\u017di\u017eek&#8217;s recent lecture on apocalyptic times is available <a href=\"http:\/\/pervegalit.wordpress.com\/2009\/11\/25\/more-zizek\/\">here<\/a>, his First as Tragedy book talk <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thersa.org\/events\/audio-and-past-events\/2009\/first-as-tragedy,-then-as-farce-the-economic-crisis-and-the-end-of-global-capitalism\">here<\/a>, and his new <a href=\"http:\/\/zizek.us\/\">blog<\/a> can alert you about other things being churned out of the \u017d factory. And see all the responses to Mikhail Emelianov&#8217;s short <a href=\"http:\/\/pervegalit.wordpress.com\/2009\/11\/25\/more-zizek\/\">post<\/a> about the first, and Arts &amp; Ecology&#8217;s post about <a href=\"http:\/\/www.artsandecology.rsablogs.org.uk\/2009\/11\/climate-denialism-and-zizeks-fear-of-the-future\/\">the second<\/a>. What&#8217;s most interesting about the apocalypse talk is that \u017d. doesn&#8217;t include eco-apocalypse in his three main kinds of apocalyptic thinking in popular culture. Has he really come around to seeing both the forest (of &#8220;nature&#8221;-as-idea) <em>and<\/em> the trees (the things themselves, including the effects we are having on them)?<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, the (pseudo-) event of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.realclimate.org\/index.php\/archives\/2009\/11\/the-cru-hack\/\">hacked climate change e-mails<\/a> continues to <a href=\"http:\/\/dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com\/2009\/11\/30\/more-on-the-climate-files-and-climate-trends\/\">reverberate<\/a> in the media, siphoning off energy from the rather more important work of preparing for the Copenhagen summit. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.grist.org\/news\">Grist<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com\/\">Dot Earth<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/climateandcapitalism.com\/?p=1348&amp;utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+climateandcapitalism%2FpEtD+%28Climate+and+Capitalism%29&amp;utm_content=Google+Reader\">Climate &amp; Capitalism<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.artsandecology.rsablogs.org.uk\/\">Arts &amp; Ecology<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.worldchanging.com\/\">WorldChanging<\/a> are some of the better sites for staying up to date on that topic.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s interesting to watch a topic spin itself out rhizomically across the blogosphere. Picking up on \u017di\u017eek&#8217;s ecological musings, Levi Bryant seems more or less in agreement with what I had argued here last week, as does Michael Austin, while Ben Woodard criticizes the narrowing of the &#8220;ecology of concepts of nature&#8221; (a point I [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":99,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[688977],"tags":[16789,377],"class_list":["post-1160","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-geo_philosophy","tag-speculative-realism","tag-zizek"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p4IC4a-iI","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":2605,"url":"https:\/\/blog.uvm.edu\/aivakhiv\/2011\/02\/11\/examining-life-trash-radical-nature\/","url_meta":{"origin":1160,"position":0},"title":"Examining life, trash, &amp; radical nature","author":"Adrian J Ivakhiv","date":"February 11, 2011","format":false,"excerpt":"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=iGCfiv1xtoU I enjoyed Astra Taylor's film Examined Life when I first saw it a couple of years ago, and, having just watched it again, I'm glad to see that it bears re-viewing. 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