{"id":1120,"date":"2009-09-18T22:55:52","date_gmt":"2009-09-19T03:55:52","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.uvm.edu\/aivakhiv\/2009\/09\/18\/relations-vs-objects-part-x\/"},"modified":"2009-09-18T22:55:52","modified_gmt":"2009-09-19T03:55:52","slug":"relations-vs-objects-part-x","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.uvm.edu\/aivakhiv\/2009\/09\/18\/relations-vs-objects-part-x\/","title":{"rendered":"relations vs. objects, part x"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;m glad to see that <a title=\"Infinte Regress \uff6b The Pinocchio Theory\" href=\"http:\/\/www.shaviro.com\/Blog\/?p=791\">Steven Shaviro<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/larvalsubjects.wordpress.com\/2009\/09\/14\/when-are-objects\/\">Levi Bryant<\/a> have stepped into the fray of the debate over the relative virtues of object-centered versus relation-centered ontologies. (Among others, e.g. <a href=\"http:\/\/kvond.wordpress.com\/\">kvond<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/philosophyinatimeoferror.wordpress.com\/2009\/09\/15\/objects\/\">Peter Gratton<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/doctorzamalek2.wordpress.com\/2009\/09\/14\/a-growing-misunderstanding\/\">Graham Harman<\/a>  <a href=\"http:\/\/doctorzamalek2.wordpress.com\/2009\/09\/17\/shaviro-responds\/\">of course<\/a>, and see the commenters to Levi&#8217;s posts on <a href=\"http:\/\/larvalsubjects.wordpress.com\/2009\/09\/14\/fictional-objects-again-and-some-differences-within-ooo\/\">Harman<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/larvalsubjects.wordpress.com\/2009\/09\/18\/realism-desire-in-philosophy-and-some-questions-about-relations\/\">Whitehead<\/a>). With some of the best blogging philosophers going at it, I&#8217;m content to sit on the sidelines and watch things unfold. To be fair, Shaviro and Harman, as well as Bryant, have been going at this kind of thing for a while now, but it&#8217;s nice to think that my review of Harman&#8217;s book helped to catalyze a little bit of the current flare-up. It&#8217;s fine to wait around for the print publication of Shaviro&#8217;s and Harman&#8217;s critiques of and responses to each other, but blogs are so much quicker at quenching one&#8217;s philosophic thirst. (And it&#8217;s nice to see Whitehead taking a more central place in this discussion.)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;m glad to see that Steven Shaviro and Levi Bryant have stepped into the fray of the debate over the relative virtues of object-centered versus relation-centered ontologies. (Among others, e.g. kvond, Peter Gratton, Graham Harman of course, and see the commenters to Levi&#8217;s posts on Harman and Whitehead). With some of the best blogging philosophers [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":99,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[688977],"tags":[16808,16805,692664,16807,266,16789,423],"class_list":["post-1120","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-geo_philosophy","tag-bryant","tag-harman","tag-onto_epistemology","tag-relationalism","tag-shaviro","tag-speculative-realism","tag-whitehead"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p4IC4a-i4","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":1410,"url":"https:\/\/blog.uvm.edu\/aivakhiv\/2010\/12\/04\/planetary-alignment-in-claremont\/","url_meta":{"origin":1120,"position":0},"title":"planetary alignment in Claremont?","author":"Adrian J Ivakhiv","date":"December 4, 2010","format":false,"excerpt":"For anyone interested in the growing dialogue between Whiteheadian process philosophy and post-Continental metaphysical realism -- a dialogue that, in my view, is at the philosophical cutting edge for ecological thinking -- the Claremont conference seems as good as it gets, perhaps even a turning point. 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